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Davos 2020: Greta Thunberg vs Mnuchin; Coronavirus fears; Soros’s $1bn university – Day Three as it happened

Rolling coverage of the third day of the World Economic Forum in Davos
  
  


Finally, here’s our news story on George Soros’s new initiative:

The key points:

George Soros is also stingingly critical of Facebook, saying the social network has not improved its behaviour.

He suggests it will now work to ensure Donald Trump is re-elected in November.

Soros announces $1bn university network

George Soros has outlined plans for a new higher education network, to promote his vision of an open society against the likes of populist politicals.

The initiative is called “The Open Society University Network”, and is being endowed with $1bn from the billionaire philanthropist.

Soros tells his audience in Davos tonight that it will be an international platform for teaching and research, offering classes, and aiming to reach places in need of high quality education.

That could include refugees, the Roma people and other displaced people, he adds.

It sounds like a successor to his Central European University, which Soros founded in Hungary - it fled to Vienna after falling foul of prime minister Victor Orbán.

Soros says he will provide $1bn funding to get it going, but is calling on other philanthropists to help too.

Soros, who turns 90 in August, says that he considers OSUM to be the most important and enduring project of his life, adding:

I hope to see it implemented when I’m still around.

Soros is also concerned about President Xi, and his attempts to control Chinese society.

With the climate crisis a growing threat too, 2020 and next few years, may determine the fate of both Xi and Trump and the whole world, he adds.

George Soros says there is now a torrent of protests from people around the world against closed societies.

The biggest is Hong Kong, he says, which “may well destroy the city’s economic prosperity.”

Onto economics and markets ....Soros warns that Trump has pumped up an already overheated economy through tax cuts.

That’s why the markets have risen so high — high enough to guarantee Trump’s re-election, Soros says, except there’s still 10 months to go.

Plenty of time for things to change, in a revolutionary time

Soros: Conman Trump is ultimate narcissist

George Soros now turns his guns on Donald Trump, saying that the US president’s “impetuous actions have heightened the risk of a conflict in thei Middle East” (he’s thinking of the asssasination of Qasem Soleiman)

Then he really wades in:

Trump is a con man and the ultimate narcissist who wants the world to revolve around him.

When his dream of the presidency came true, his narcissism took on a pathalogical dimension, Soros continues.

And it’s now become a malignant disease, because Trump has build a following who believe him.

Soros then gives a searing assessment of the global situation.

The strongest powers - the U S, China and Russia - have all ended up in the hands of would-be or actual dictators.

And the battle against Brexit, which will be bad for the UK and the EU, ended in “a crushing defeat”, Soros adds.

He also criticises India’s Modi for trying to create a Hindu state.

Soros speaks in Davos

Hello again. George Soros, the billionaire philanthropist is speaking at an event in Davos now.

He starts by warning that open societies (Soros’s big cause) is under threat, and Climate crisis is threatening our civilisation.

It is easier to influence events than understand what’s going on, he warns.

This is leading to widespread unhappiness in the population, which populists have taken advantage of, he says.

Summary: Mnuchin vs Thunberg; Coronovirus worries; Bezos hack

Here’s a summary of the key points from another busy day here in Davos.

Greta Thunberg has hit back at criticism from US treasury secretary Steven Mnuchin, as the climate emergency continues to dominate the World Economic Forum.

Mnuchin claimed that Thunberg should go and study economics before pronouncing on fossil fuel. He also defended America’s record on sustainability, hailing its private sector’s work.

Thunberg pointed out that you don’t need a college degree to see which way the (hot, polluted) wind is blowing.

Angela Merkel also hailed the contribution of young activists, as she warned that the cost of inaction would be hugely higher than the cost of action.

In other news:

Leading experts in viruses and infection control have warned that the Wuhan coronavirus is a global issue, as they announced new partnerships to find a vaccine.

But with the virus spreading fast, experts are very concerned -- and want people to be meticulous about hand-washing and getting a flu vaccine to lower the burden on doctors.

Steven Mnuchin and Microsoft’s Satya Nadella wouldn’t say whether they might be caught up in the WhatsApp hacking scandal suffered by Jeff Bezos.

UK chancellor Sajid Javid tried to reassure businesses that Brexit won’t lead to a bonfire of EU rules.

At a lunch with top UK corporate leaders, he pledged:

We won’t diverge just for the sake of it”

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A few photos from today:

If you missed this morning’s blog, here’s a reminder of what Steven Mnuchin, the US treasury advisor, said about Greta Thunberg’s anti-fossil fuel campaign:

Is she the chief economist? Who is she, I’m confused.

After clarifying he was joking, he added:

After she goes and studies economics in college, she can come back and explain that to us.

Here’s our write-up:

Greta hits back

Just in: Greta Thunberg has responded to Treasury secretary Steve Mnuchin’s claim that she should go and learn economics.....with a dose of climate science:

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The press conference ends with another reminder of the uncertainty, from Jeremy Farrar.

We don’t know if we’re at the influenza end, or the SARS end.

Influenza in 1918 had a very low mortality rate, but because it spread around the world it killed 50 million people, he explains.

SARS had a 10% mortality rate, but only killed 774 people.

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Wellcome Trust: Get your flu vaccine to help with coronavirus battle

There’s so much uncertainty about the coronavirus, Jeremy Farrer of Wellcome Trust adds, and he won’t get into guesswork about what the future holds.

In particular, he wants to know more about exactly how the virus spreads -- how long is the incubation period, and the infection period?

This will become a global issue. This isn’t just a China issue, it’s going to affect us all.

Richard Hatchett of the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness and Innovations (CEPI) agrees. Other countries have to accept that it isn’t just a China problem.

Q: How can you calm people watching in China, and panicking?

The message needs to come from a Chinese voice, Farrer replies. We need to trust the Chinese authorities - they’re making decisions without knowing all the information.

Q: What can people do to help?

The importance of hand-washing can’t be overstated, says Farrar, along with avoiding schools and crowded places.

And he has advice for Europeans too -- go and get your flu vaccine.

It’s currently the flu season, so medical staff presented with a potential Wuhan coronavirus victim need to tell if it’s actually coronavirus, or influenza.

Hatchett agrees, and also cites the use of the ‘elbow bump’ technique instead of shaking hands.

If everyone assumes responsibility for this virus, we can beat it.

Jeremy Farrer is taking more questions now (I think the video feed has been cut).

He explains that the transmission of Wuhan coronavirus began in the animal market, but it’s now moved beyond that phase.

It is now transmitting between humans. It has moved beyond Wuhan, Farrer adds.

Richard Hatchett says lessons can be learned from flu -- closing schools can be very successful at slowing the spread of flu.

Coronavirus is what we've been afraid of

Q: What more can the authorities in China do?

Reliant on classic public health measures -- hand-washing, keeping people apart, masks, and travel restrictions.

Q: Why is there such panic?

The world has been getting ready for this to happen since SARS 18 years ago.

When you see a virus moving from animals to humans, people will worry.

Farrer then says:

We want to keep a calm, moderated approach, but we need to take this incredibly seriously

And he warns that a virus which spreads from animals to humans, and then between humans, and spreads by the respiratory route, is a very serious issue.

It’s what Richard and I, and others, have been worried about, Farrer adds.

Q: What can we learn from previous outbreaks?

Richard Hatchett cites the H5N1 virus, when there was no vaccine when it first appeared.

That means governments had to impose non-pharmaceutical measures, such as travel restrictions, closing schools

When you don’t have treatment and you don’t have vaccines, non-pharmaceutical interventions are the only thing you have got.

He says there is evidence that US cities who imposed restrictions quickly back during in the influenza epidemic a century ago fared better.

But those measures impose enormous cost, and cause enormous anxiety among populations.

One of the three vaccines is being developed by Moderna, which uses a new class of drugs, messenger RNA Therapeutics.

Stéphane Bancel, its CEO, says the company is trying to develop the vaccine faster than ever before, with the US government helping with its design.

Partnerships to develop Wuhan coronavirus vaccines announced

Richard Hatchett announces three new partnerships to develop vaccines to combat the Wuhan Coronavirus.

Our hope is to have these vaccines developed very rapidly and moved into human trials soon, maybe as soon as this summer.

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Q: What impact will travel restrictions have?

Jeremy Farrar says the actual impact of travel restrictions is quite limited.

People can evade them, or they could be allowed to travel if they are infectious with no symptoms.

They can buy you some time, maybe a day a week or a few weeks.

But you need to put the critical public health response into place.

Travel restrictions alone will not stop the Wuhan Coronavirus spreading, Farrar adds.

Richard Hatchett, CEO of the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness and Innovations (CEPI), says there’s a lot we don’t know about the Coronavirus.

Many of the answers may not become available for some time.

We going to have to make decisions under ambiguity and uncertainty.

Farrar adds that he can’t predict the future, but we should give China credit for responding and publicising the issue quickly.

Expert: Many more Wuhan coronavirus cases to come

Q: What do we know about the Wuhan Coronavirus?

Jeremy Farrar of the Wellcome Trust says the virus probably crossed the species barrier from bats to humans at an animal market in the city of Wuhan, with the first case detected in December.

It can now clearly spread between humans, though coughing and sneezing.

It is not SARS, but it’s a similar family. It looks different -- and it finds it easier to pass between humans than SARS did, Farrar says.

Farrar warns:

When a virus can spread between humans easily, it is very hard to bring it under control.

We can expect many more cases in China, and many more cases in the rest of the world.

But the mortality rate might be lower than SARS (which had a mortality rate of 10%).

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WEF are holding a press conference now on the Wuhan Coronavirus.

It will examine the priorities for responding to the outbreak, and lessons from previous epidemics.

On the panel are:

  • Jeremy Farrar: Director, Wellcome Trust
  • Richard Hatchett, Chief Executive Officer, Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness and Innovations (CEPI)
  • Stéphane Bancel, Chief Executive Officer, Moderna
  • Juliana Chan, Chief Executive Officer, Wildtype Media Group

We’ll bring you the key points....

Angela Merkel hails the work of the new generation of climate activists, saying;

“The impatience of our young people is something that we should tap”

But she warns of “enormous tension between the rural areas and the cities” over the measures that will be needed to tackle the climate emergency. That’s because infrastructure, such as public transport, is much better developed in the urban areas.

And Merkel, a scientist herself, says the evidence of climate change is so clear, but...

“Whenever facts and emotions clash, one can always try to develop an anti-fact position.”

The solution is for the two sides to talk to each other, and don’t stay locked in their own digital bubble. Otherwise we will be led “right into catastrophe, we have to overcome this.”

I am totally convinced that the price of inaction will be far higher than the price of action.

Merkel demands global co-operation on climate

German chancellor Angela Merkel, a Davos regular, is now addressing the World Economic Forum.

She says the world has changed a lot in the 50 years since the first Davos meeting -- Merkel never imagined in 1971 that she’d be standing here today.

The cold war ended 30 years ago, and the Bipolar world turned into a multipolar world.

There has been major progress since - increases in per capita income, sharp declines in poverty, and major progress fighting infections diseases.

Those achievements were build on countries cooperating at an international level, Merkel says pointedly.

Similar cooperation is needed on climate, as we are under pressure, and we have to act, says the German leader.

If the world is going to keep global warming to below 1.5 degrees C, we need to speed up.

The global community has to act together, Merkel insists, adding that “unfortunately not everyone is with us”, but most are there.

Mnuchin, Nadella and Cook won't comment on Bezos hack

The news that Jeff Bezos has - a UN report says - been hacked via Saudi Arabia’s crown prince, Mohammed bin Salman’s WhatsApp account has caused a stir.

But those who have met MBS in recent years aren’t keen to discuss the issue here at Davos.

US Treasury secretary Steven Mnuchin declined to comment on the issue, having met with the crown prince back in 2018.

I caught up with Mnuchin in Davos after his morning press conference and asked whether he’d ever received a WhatsApp message from MBS, and whether his phone could have been hacked.

Mnuchin would only say:

“I only know what I’ve read in the paper.”

Microsoft’s CEO, Satya Nadella, also met the crown prince in 2018. My colleague Larry Elliott caught up with him in Davos, and asked if he was concerned.

Nadella said:

“I haven’t seen it. Perhaps I need to catch up and we can talk again then.”

Apple CEO Tim Cook wouldn’t talk about the issue last night either - he also met MBS during his tour of the US in 2018.

Nor would Majid Al-Kasabi, Saudi Arabia’s Minister of Commerce and Investment, who I tried to speak to in the hall this morning.

Javid tries to calm fears over Brexit divergence

Sajid Javid also seeks to reassure business that there won’t be a bonfire of deregulation from the EU rule book after Brexit.

The chancellor says:

“We won’t diverge just for the sake of it.”

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Javid: Too many Britons feel let down

UK chancellor Sajid Javid is telling UK business leaders that the UK needs a “course correction”.

Speaking at the CBI’s lunch in the Belvedere hotel in Davos, Javid identifies three priorities -- skills, infrastructure and fiscal responsibility.

Javid says:

In Britain today there are too many people who feel hopeless and let down by the way politics works.

There is a sense of anger and betrayal in some communities.”

He adds that the problem goes back decades, to decades before financial crisis.

Updated

Greta Thunberg hasn’t responded to Mnuchin’s comments yet -- but she will be making her case tomorrow, at a school strike here in Davos.

Saudi: world still needs fossil fuels

Saudi Arabia’s energy minister has launched his own attack on the move against fossil fuels.

Prince Abdulaziz Bin Salman Bin Abdulaziz Al Saud argued that the world still needs fossil fuels - so oil and gas need to remain part of the mix.

We want to make sure that the world focuses on every sort of energy, Al Saud said, pointing to the ‘big issue’ of energy poverty.

There are 2.6 billion citizens who do not have accessibility to a clean cooking fuel, mainly in Africa, Al Saud continued.

He was appearing on a panel on Saudi Arabia’s priorities when it takes on the G20 chair this year.

But some of the climate message seems to have got through to the Saudis, with Al Saud talking about the need to mitigate emissions.

“We owe it to ourselves, and the generation to come to come, that this world has to attend to all gases that cause climate change.”

If you’re just tuning in, here’s our news story on Mnuchin’s dismissal of Greta Thunberg today:

CBI: Election result has brought sense of relief

Newsflash: The head of the CBI is telling some of Britain’s top corporate leaders that last month’s general election result has lifted business uncertainty.

Speaking at the CBI’s annual, exclusive, lunch here in Davos’s Belvedere hotel, Carolyn Fairbairn says:

There is a real sense of relief that we are moving on and there is a sign of spring in our steps.”

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Bruno Le Maire: We won't give up on digital tax

French finance minister Bruno Le Maire has just been discussing the agreement with the US over the digital sales tax (our friends at France 24 tell us).

Le Maire said that France’s unilateral tax on US tech giants has been deferred from April (when it was due) to December.

In return, the US are not imposing tariffs on EU automobiles, while talks on a multinational approach to the taxation of companies such as Facebook and Amazon are held (with the OECD playing a role).

Le Maire said France has succeeded in getting all sides to talk about the issue.

“We also have an aggressive tactic… and it has been efficient. We can be tough too.”

Without France’s efforts, the issue of a digital tax “would have been buried” otherwise, Le Maire claimed, adding:

“We will never give up.”

But what about Britain’s own plans for a unilateral digital sales tax, in the face of US opposition?

Le Maire says it is up to the UK to decide what to do but an agreement at an OECD level would be best.

Microsoft boss Satya Nadella has been talking about the importance of trust in technology.

Speaking here in Davos, Nadella warned:

We will go backwards unless there is trust in the factor of production that is supposed to fuel the 4th Industrial Revolution.

We need global norms to ensure trust in technology.

Trust in tech is indeed a key issue right now, given worries over Huawei’s 5G systems (which Steve Mnuchin and Sajid Javid will discuss this weekend).

Microsoft faces being removed from China in 2023 as Beijing bans foreign-made tech. And Nadella says he’s worried about new barriers springing up between countries.

I would urge us to think about what would happen if we decouple the internet or trade.

It will increase the transactional costs of our economy and we will all be worse off.

Nadella also called for data and privacy needs to be thought of as a human right.

Data dignity goes further than privacy, he said.

People’s data has a value, and we need to account for that, and control in a finer-grained way how the data is used... to create value wider society and the world, Nadella continued.

Economics professor Mariana Mazzucato has heard a fine description of Davos:

Venezuela's Guaidó at Davos

In other Davos news, Venezuelan politician Juan Guaidó has called for international help to dislodge Nicolas Maduro.

Juan Guaidó told delegates that Maduro’s government were a “criminal” group, who needed to be removed.

Guaidó, who declared himself the legitimate president a year ago, blasted Venezuela’s failed economic model.

But his presence here is also a reminder that his bold attempt to lead a popular uprising against Maduro has stalled.

Former UK prime minister Tony Blair fears a massive refugee crisis is building.

Where is the World Bank boss?

Alarmingly, the head of the World Bank hasn’t even come to Davos this year. That’s another indication that the US isn’t stepping up to the climate challenge.

My colleague Larry Elliott reports that David Malpass’s absence has caused disappointment.

Hopes of using Davos to forge a new international consensus to tackle poverty and the climate crisis have been thwarted by the decision of the World Bank president, David Malpass, to boycott the event.

To the surprise of the other multilateral institutions, Malpass turned down his invitation to attend despite being in Europe this week for the UK government’s Africa investment summit in London.

In the past, World Bank presidents have played a prominent role at the annual meeting of the World Economic Forum, taking the opportunity to make the case for concerted action to tackle global poverty.

But there may be reasons, Larry adds:

Those more sympathetic to Malpass said he was a shy man who did not know how to do smalltalk and hated events such as Davos.

Welcome to the club, David!

Trump’s cabinet also sounded upbeat about the prospects of a swift trade deal between the US and UK after Brexit.

That puts the NHS in the spotlight.

Wilbur Ross, the Commerce secretary, suggested that pharmaceuticals prices should be more uniform -- currently they cost a lot more in the US.

But he denied that the White House plans to impose prices on the NHS:

Economist Jonathan Portas isn’t impressed by Mnuchin’s swipe at Thunberg.

Mnuchin: It's complicated....

After trying to clip Greta’s wings, US treasury secretary Steven Mnuchin argued that there are no easy choices when it comes to the environment.

He told reporters:

When I was allowed to drive I had a Tesla. I drove in California. I liked it.

But nobody focuses on how that electricity is made, and what happens to the storage and the environmental issues on all these batteries.

The environmental issues are clearly complicated.

Mnuchin also argues that America is taking a lead -- but through its companies.

If you look at the US from a leadership standpoint - driven by private industry not governent control, we’ve been a leader.

And he says that people who call for fossil fuel divestment (such as Thunberg this week) should realise there are significant economic issues, and potential job losses.

Many economies are transitioning to more efficient and cleaner energy. That doesn’t have to be all renewables.

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Mnuchin adds that people who call for fossil fuel divestment should remember there are significant economic issues, issues with jobs.

Many economies are transitioning to a lower-emissions economy.

Eugene Scalia says that pensioners could suffer if there is a sudden divestment of fossil fuel assets.

Mnuchin slaps down Thunberg's fossil fuel concerns

Q: Does Greta Thunberg’s call for an end to fossil fuel investment threaten US economic growth?

“Is she the chief economist...that’s a joke” says Mnuchin sarcastically.

After she goes and studies economics in college, she can come back and explain that to us, he adds.

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Mnuchin and Javid to discuss Huawei this weekend

Q: The UK is planning to use Huawei equipment in its 5G networks - is that sensible?

Mnuchin says he’ll be meeting Sajid Javid in London this weekend, when this will be discussed.

Ross: EU auto tariffs are still an option

Q: What’s happening with the threat of tariffs on EU auto industry?

Wilbur Ross says the US has not abandoned the option of imposing these tariffs, they’re still available to be used if necessary.

We are eager to reach a resolution with the EU, he adds. But president Trump has said the tariffs are still an option if we go down a different route.

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Mnuchin on US-French tax row

Donald Trump left Davos yesterday, but several member of his cabinet are still here - and they’re holding a briefing now.

Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin, commerce secretary Wilbur Ross and Eugene Scalia are here.

Mnuchin speaks first, outlining about how Donald Trump’s tax cuts and deregulations have been good for growth (this has been a regular theme from the US this week).

Mnuchin adds that Trump met an enormous number of CEOs, and also held a meeting about WTO reform.

On the US-French tax spat, Mnuchin confirms that presidents Trump and Mnuchin reached an agreement under which the digital sales tax will be postponed this year.

We’ll continue to have discussions at the OECD on the wider issue, Mnuchin adds.

Updated

With a political crisis brewing in Italy, prime minister Giuseppe Conte has pulled out of Davos.

Conte’s coalition is looking shaky, following the resignation of foreign minister Luigi Di Maio - a move that has hurt Italian bonds:

Introduction: Brexit and trade worries

Good morning from the third day of the World Economic Forum in Davos.

With barely a week until Brexit, UK chancellor Sajid Javid will attempt to reassure British business leaders as they face choppy waters ahead.

Javid is speaking at the CBI’s traditional lunch on the sidelines of the World Economic Forum. He’s expected to talk up the “opportunities of Brexit”, saying:

With the Brexit question settled, we have the chance to move forward and tackle the hard problems facing our economy.

To level up and spread opportunity; to raise the potential of our country; and decarbonise our economy.”

Businesses are alarmed, though, by Javid’s talk of diverging from the EU after Brexit.

Trade tensions are also bubbling away here. France and the US have reached a temporary truce in their dispute, with Paris dropping its digital sales tax (to avoid tariffs on its car sales).

Angela Merkel is speaking later, while Venezuelan opposition leader Juan Guaidó is expected to appeal for help from Davos attendees.

Plus tonight we hear from billionaire philanthropist George Soros.

The agenda

  • 9am Davos time: Session on taxing the digital economy with French finance minister Bruno Le Maire

  • 9.30am Davos: Venezuelan politician Juan Guaidó speaks

  • 10.30am Davos: Microsoft chief Satya Nadella speaking about inclusive growth

  • 12.30pm Davos: Sajid Javid speaks at CBI business leaders lunch

  • 2.15pm Davos: Special address by German chancellor Angela Merkel

  • Evening: George Soros’s annual Davos speech

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